im going to ask my landlord about me installing a insect screen mesh over the back door frame as im sick of the bugs that come in - and if its not bugs its black birds coming in and helping themselves to the cat biscuits but im just wanting to judge if other owners / landlords would have a issue with it - ive looked into the screen and it comes with velcro tape for aluminum door frames and tacks for timber ( i'll need the tacks ) which would leave small holes the size of maybe push pins / small nail - anyway this is the screen https://www.mitre10.co.nz/shop/number-8-magnetic-insect-scre
en-door-curtain-w-1000mm-l-2100mm-black/p/309540 and if the holes are a issue im happy to leave it behind if i had to move - thoughts ?

Edited by trade_menow at 12:03 am, Wed 27 Jan

trade_menow - 2021-01-27 00:02:00

I'm a landlord. I wouldn't mind at all. I think under the new laws after Feb 1st landlords can't refuse requests for minor changes if requested by the tenant. Take a look at other threads in the Real Estate section on the MB. It's been discussed lately that tenants will have the rights to make minor changes like hanging pictures etc so I don't see how this going up could be any different. Wait to ask them after Feb 1st and basically they can't refuse you. Personally I'd pay for this for you to install if I was your landlord and you asked me. I think it's a must to prevent hideous bugs.

oakcottage - 2021-01-27 00:13:00

Here you go. I stole this from another thread....

42B Minor changes
(1) Without limiting section 42A(1), it is unreasonable for a landlord to withhold consent to a minor change to premises.
(2) In this section and section 42A, a minor change is any fixture, renovation, alteration, or addition of or to the premises that—
(a) presents no more than a low risk of material damage to the premises; and
(b) would allow the premises to be returned easily to substantially the same condition; and
(c) does not pose a risk to health and safety (including during work to install, remove, or undo the minor change) that cannot reasonably practicably be eliminated or minimised; and
(d) does not compromise the structural integrity, weathertightness, or character of any building; and
(e) would not have an unreasonable negative effect on any person’s enjoyment or use of any property outside the premises; and
(f) does not require any regulatory consent (for example, a building consent); and
(g) does not breach any obligation or restriction relevant to the premises (for example, an obligation or a restriction imposed by a bylaw, a planning or body corporate rule, or a covenant).
(3) A landlord commits an unlawful act if the landlord withholds consent for a minor change.
(4) If a minor change is made in accordance with a request under section 42A, the tenant must, on or before the expiry of the tenancy, return the premises to a condition that is substantially the same as the condition that the premises were in before the minor change was made.
(5) Subsection (4) does not apply if the landlord and the tenant agree a different arrangement in relation to the minor change for the end of the tenancy (for example, that the minor change will remain in place).
(6) A tenant who fails to comply with subsection (4) commits an unlawful act.

oakcottage - 2021-01-27 00:32:00

thank you - but id rather get there permission without the law saying that they have to but its nice to know some dont have a issue with what im hoping to do

Edited by trade_menow at 12:41 am, Wed 27 Jan

trade_menow - 2021-01-27 00:40:00

Yes I would let you do that, there is no problem there. Ask the landlord and explain it will be done properly, good to keep them on the loop,

msigg - 2021-01-27 07:14:00

I clearly said "if requested" and "wait to ask" and "asked me". I never implied doing it without asking and using the law. I put the new law details in as a reference for your rights and it too states "unreasonable to withhold consent" which means there's been a request Not do it and then here's your rights.

Edited by oakcottage at 8:21 am, Wed 27 Jan

oakcottage - 2021-01-27 08:07:00

I would actually install something better as a LL.
Have just done one with the velcro, didn't last.
Now installed tracked screens.

Installed HRV when we first bought the place.
Will look at heat pump/AC for bedrooms next year.

smallwoods - 2021-01-27 08:57:00

Those screens are great, a friend has one and living rural she was always complaining about flies but she's very impressed with it.

kacy5 - 2021-01-27 09:13:00

Ok muppet-slayer, I stand corrected. I've never in my life met a person whose been bitten by a tick but almost everyone has been bitten by sandflies/mosquitos, so perhaps I was generalising. I'm also in North Canterbury so maybe it's more common in the North Island?

oakcottage - 2021-01-27 10:31:00

oakcottage wrote:

muppet-slayer,

Must remember that one.

masturbidder - 2021-01-27 10:45:00

???? sorry... that's a post from another thread ???????? no idea how it got in here. ????????♀️????????♀️ Muppet-slayer is a poster, I'm not name calling. Geese. I think I'd better get of the MB.

oakcottage - 2021-01-27 11:48:00

oakcottage wrote:

Ok muppet-slayer, I stand corrected. I've never in my life met a person whose been bitten by a tick but almost everyone has been bitten by sandflies/mosquitos, so perhaps I was generalising. I'm also in North Canterbury so maybe it's more common in the North Island?

I have been bitten by a tick

godzilla06 - 2021-01-27 13:48:00

godzilla06 wrote:

I have been bitten by a tick

Okay but I was saying I've not met anyone bitten by a tick and that maybe they're more common in the North Island which is where you are. I hope you didn't have any repercussions from the bite ????????

oakcottage - 2021-01-27 14:53:00