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I'm looking for William Shields occupation in Scotland about 1855 to 1860

herby10 - 2019-04-11 11:38:00
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Which William Shields?

stock - 2019-04-11 12:11:00
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The husband of Elizabeth Muir as per the other thread "Elizabeth Muir"?
1863/4627 Elizabeth Muir William Shields

Edited by h28skipper at 12:55 pm, Thu 11 Apr

h28skipper - 2019-04-11 12:54:00
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Marriage date works out at 22 Oct 1863

hymac - 2019-04-11 12:59:00
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http://www.theensign.co.nz/community/shields-family-descenda
nts-seeking-relatives-for-reunion/

William Shields arrived in Dunedin on July 30, 1861 on the ship Stormcloud

Elizabeth Muir arrived in Invercargill in 1863.

Both William and Elizabeth were from Lanarkshire, Scotland.

h28skipper - 2019-04-11 12:59:00
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Yes thanks h28skipper, William was born in Scotland in 1836 to Thomas and Agnes Shields in Larnarkshire, but I don't know much about his life in Scotland before he arrived in Dunedin.

herby10 - 2019-04-11 13:16:00
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herby10 wrote:

Yes thanks h28skipper, William was born in Scotland in 1836 to Thomas and Agnes Shields in Larnarkshire, but I don't know much about his life in Scotland before he arrived in Dunedin.

Have you checked any censuses? What did the entry for his emigration have as to his occupation?

shanreagh - 2019-04-11 14:06:00
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shanreagh wrote:

Have you checked any censuses? What did the entry for his emigration have as to his occupation?


Not sure where to look !

herby10 - 2019-04-11 15:46:00
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This is William’s family in the 1841 Census. Naturally it won’t give an occupation for William as he was too young but I thought you might like to have it.

1841 Census
Civil Parish: Lanark
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Bannatyne Street
Parish Number: 648
Thomas Shields 42 birth yr: abt 1799 M born Scotland Occ Taylor
Agnes Shields : 18 birth yr abt 1823 F Cotton Spinner
Christian Shields 15 birth yr abt 1826 Cotton Spinner
Richard Shields 14 born abt 1827 Cotton Spinner
Christophe Shields 10 born abt 1831 M
Thomas Shields 9 born abt 1832 M
Elizabeth Shields 6 born ant 1835 F
William 4 born abt 1837 M

All the children were born in Lanarkshire, Scotland
It is possible their mum, Agnes, had died as she didn't appear in the record

h28skipper - 2019-04-11 16:54:00
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This could be your William in the 1851 census in. Liberton. There is a Liberton 36 miles from Lanark and a Libberton (sp.) 9 miles away

First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place
John Thorburn Head Widower Male 73 1778 Farmer 115 Acres Employing 2 Lab 2 Women And 1 Boy Liberton, Lanarkshire, Scotland
James Thorburn Son Unmarried Male 16 1835 Teacher Liberton Lanarkshirehire,
Mary Thorburn Grand Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1835 House Servant Liberton, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Agnes Jackson Daughter Married Female 29 1822 Farmers Daughter Liberton, Lanarkshire, Scotland
Mary Jackson Grand Daughter Female 3 1848 At Home Liberton, Lanarkshire,
William Jackson Grand Son - Male 0 1851 At Home Liberton, Lanarkshire,
Grace McGhie Servant Unmarried Female 23 1828 House Maid Biggar, Lanarkshire,
Jane Weir Servant Unmarried Female 23 1828 Dairy Maid Eddleston, Peeblesshire,
William Shields Servant - Male 13 1838 Farm Boy Lanark, Lanarkshire,

h28skipper - 2019-04-11 17:08:00
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this looks a good possibility of William's birth and baptism

William Shields
in the Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950

Name: William Shields
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 16 Sep 1836
Baptism Date: 20 Sep 1836
Baptism Place: , Lanark, Lanark, Scotland
Father: Thomas Shields
Mother: Agnes Mutrie
FHL Film Number: 1066596
Reference ID: 2:16KNZVB

crab2 - 2019-04-11 17:11:00
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his mother could still be on the 1841 but in Glasgow as there is this death on Scotland's people...

SHIELDS
AGNES
-----
43
F
08/06/1842
644/1
670 128
Glasgow

https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1014980101.jpg

crab2 - 2019-04-11 17:20:00
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Not sure that is our Agnes as she was born 24th Feb 1791, so age isn't right, thanks but the information is correct on William, which I did have, thanks for your help.

Edited by herby10 at 8:54 pm, Thu 11 Apr

herby10 - 2019-04-11 20:52:00
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h28skipper wrote:

This is William’s family in the 1841 Census. Naturally it won’t give an occupation for William as he was too young but I thought you might like to have it.

1841 Census
Civil Parish: Lanark
County: Lanarkshire
Address: Bannatyne Street
Parish Number: 648
Thomas Shields 42 birth yr: abt 1799 M born Scotland Occ Taylor
Agnes Shields : 18 birth yr abt 1823 F Cotton Spinner
Christian Shields 15 birth yr abt 1826 Cotton Spinner
Richard Shields 14 born abt 1827 Cotton Spinner
Christophe Shields 10 born abt 1831 M
Thomas Shields 9 born abt 1832 M
Elizabeth Shields 6 born ant 1835 F
William 4 born abt 1837 M

All the children were born in Lanarkshire, Scotland
It is possible their mum, Agnes, had died as she didn't appear in the record

Thanks so much for all this information!

herby10 - 2019-04-11 21:01:00
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herby10 wrote:

Not sure that is our Agnes as she was born 24th Feb 1791, so age isn't right, thanks but the information is correct on William, which I did have, thanks for your help.

So a bit older than her husband then? According to 1841 census he was born about 1799/1800. Where have you got the date of birth from?

shanreagh - 2019-04-11 21:42:00
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Agnes m.s was Mutrie according to the birth info on FS. William was born 16/9/1836.

Sorry double up of Crab2's info

Edited by shanreagh at 10:03 pm, Thu 11 Apr

shanreagh - 2019-04-11 21:51:00
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Marriage
Name Thomas Shields
Spouse's Name Agnes Mutrie
Event Date 03 Aug 1823
Event Place Lanark,Lanark,Scotland

shanreagh - 2019-04-11 21:57:00
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shanreagh wrote:

So a bit older than her husband then? According to 1841 census he was born about 1799/1800. Where have you got the date of birth from?

MUTRIE
AGNES NEILSON
DAVID MUTRIE/JEAN FURLONG FR1556 (FR1556)
F
24/02/1791
644/1
180 307
Glasgow

h28skipper - 2019-04-12 02:07:00
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h28skipper wrote:

MUTRIE
AGNES NEILSON
DAVID MUTRIE/JEAN FURLONG FR1556 (FR1556)
F
24/02/1791
644/1
180 307
Glasgow

Yes I saw that. I just wanted to know how they had established that this one was 'their' one. I could not find a child in the family (in the census result above) named Jean or David and often in Scottish families at the time that would be unusual. They may have died young of course.

shanreagh - 2019-04-12 09:17:00
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shanreagh wrote:

Marriage
Name Thomas Shields
Spouse's Name Agnes Mutrie
Event Date 03 Aug 1823
Event Place Lanark,Lanark,Scotland


Thank you for this ,I know Thomas was meant to have been married 3 times, so I wasn't sure Agnes was the mother of all of William's siblings, this would confirm she was.

herby10 - 2019-04-13 13:12:00
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The sister of my great grandmother married William Shields. She was a Wylie from the west of Scotland, and would have been born about 1820. I'm being vague because I need to find the details and I will if it seems likely. They had a son, William as well.

blackhalls - 2019-04-16 22:46:00
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