1 | I'm looking for William Shields occupation in Scotland about 1855 to 1860 herby10 - 2019-04-11 11:38:00 |
2 | Which William Shields? stock - 2019-04-11 12:11:00 |
3 | The husband of Elizabeth Muir as per the other thread "Elizabeth Muir"? 1863/4627 Elizabeth Muir William Shields Edited by h28skipper at 12:55 pm, Thu 11 Apr h28skipper - 2019-04-11 12:54:00 |
4 | Marriage date works out at 22 Oct 1863 hymac - 2019-04-11 12:59:00 |
5 | http://www.theensign.co.nz/community/shields-family-descenda nts-seeking-relatives-for-reunion/ William Shields arrived in Dunedin on July 30, 1861 on the ship Stormcloud Elizabeth Muir arrived in Invercargill in 1863. Both William and Elizabeth were from Lanarkshire, Scotland. h28skipper - 2019-04-11 12:59:00 |
6 | Yes thanks h28skipper, William was born in Scotland in 1836 to Thomas and Agnes Shields in Larnarkshire, but I don't know much about his life in Scotland before he arrived in Dunedin. herby10 - 2019-04-11 13:16:00 |
7 | herby10 wrote:
Yes thanks h28skipper, William was born in Scotland in 1836 to Thomas and Agnes Shields in Larnarkshire, but I don't know much about his life in Scotland before he arrived in Dunedin. Have you checked any censuses? What did the entry for his emigration have as to his occupation? shanreagh - 2019-04-11 14:06:00 |
8 | shanreagh wrote:
Have you checked any censuses? What did the entry for his emigration have as to his occupation? Not sure where to look ! herby10 - 2019-04-11 15:46:00 |
9 | This is William’s family in the 1841 Census. Naturally it won’t give an occupation for William as he was too young but I thought you might like to have it. 1841 Census Civil Parish: Lanark County: Lanarkshire Address: Bannatyne Street Parish Number: 648 Thomas Shields 42 birth yr: abt 1799 M born Scotland Occ Taylor Agnes Shields : 18 birth yr abt 1823 F Cotton Spinner Christian Shields 15 birth yr abt 1826 Cotton Spinner Richard Shields 14 born abt 1827 Cotton Spinner Christophe Shields 10 born abt 1831 M Thomas Shields 9 born abt 1832 M Elizabeth Shields 6 born ant 1835 F William 4 born abt 1837 M All the children were born in Lanarkshire, Scotland It is possible their mum, Agnes, had died as she didn't appear in the record h28skipper - 2019-04-11 16:54:00 |
10 | This could be your William in the 1851 census in. Liberton. There is a Liberton 36 miles from Lanark and a Libberton (sp.) 9 miles away First name(s) Last name Relationship Marital status Sex Age Birth year Occupation Birth place John Thorburn Head Widower Male 73 1778 Farmer 115 Acres Employing 2 Lab 2 Women And 1 Boy Liberton, Lanarkshire, Scotland James Thorburn Son Unmarried Male 16 1835 Teacher Liberton Lanarkshirehire, Mary Thorburn Grand Daughter Unmarried Female 16 1835 House Servant Liberton, Lanarkshire, Scotland Agnes Jackson Daughter Married Female 29 1822 Farmers Daughter Liberton, Lanarkshire, Scotland Mary Jackson Grand Daughter Female 3 1848 At Home Liberton, Lanarkshire, William Jackson Grand Son - Male 0 1851 At Home Liberton, Lanarkshire, Grace McGhie Servant Unmarried Female 23 1828 House Maid Biggar, Lanarkshire, Jane Weir Servant Unmarried Female 23 1828 Dairy Maid Eddleston, Peeblesshire, William Shields Servant - Male 13 1838 Farm Boy Lanark, Lanarkshire, h28skipper - 2019-04-11 17:08:00 |
11 | this looks a good possibility of William's birth and baptism William Shields in the Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950 Name: William Shields Gender: Male Birth Date: 16 Sep 1836 Baptism Date: 20 Sep 1836 Baptism Place: , Lanark, Lanark, Scotland Father: Thomas Shields Mother: Agnes Mutrie FHL Film Number: 1066596 Reference ID: 2:16KNZVB crab2 - 2019-04-11 17:11:00 |
12 | his mother could still be on the 1841 but in Glasgow as there is this death on Scotland's people... SHIELDS AGNES ----- 43 F 08/06/1842 644/1 670 128 Glasgow https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/1014980101.jpg crab2 - 2019-04-11 17:20:00 |
13 | Not sure that is our Agnes as she was born 24th Feb 1791, so age isn't right, thanks but the information is correct on William, which I did have, thanks for your help. Edited by herby10 at 8:54 pm, Thu 11 Apr herby10 - 2019-04-11 20:52:00 |
14 | h28skipper wrote:
This is William’s family in the 1841 Census. Naturally it won’t give an occupation for William as he was too young but I thought you might like to have it. 1841 Census Civil Parish: Lanark County: Lanarkshire Address: Bannatyne Street Parish Number: 648 Thomas Shields 42 birth yr: abt 1799 M born Scotland Occ Taylor Agnes Shields : 18 birth yr abt 1823 F Cotton Spinner Christian Shields 15 birth yr abt 1826 Cotton Spinner Richard Shields 14 born abt 1827 Cotton Spinner Christophe Shields 10 born abt 1831 M Thomas Shields 9 born abt 1832 M Elizabeth Shields 6 born ant 1835 F William 4 born abt 1837 M All the children were born in Lanarkshire, Scotland It is possible their mum, Agnes, had died as she didn't appear in the record Thanks so much for all this information! herby10 - 2019-04-11 21:01:00 |
15 | herby10 wrote:
Not sure that is our Agnes as she was born 24th Feb 1791, so age isn't right, thanks but the information is correct on William, which I did have, thanks for your help. So a bit older than her husband then? According to 1841 census he was born about 1799/1800. Where have you got the date of birth from? shanreagh - 2019-04-11 21:42:00 |
16 | Agnes m.s was Mutrie according to the birth info on FS. William was born 16/9/1836. Sorry double up of Crab2's info Edited by shanreagh at 10:03 pm, Thu 11 Apr shanreagh - 2019-04-11 21:51:00 |
17 | Marriage Name Thomas Shields Spouse's Name Agnes Mutrie Event Date 03 Aug 1823 Event Place Lanark,Lanark,Scotland shanreagh - 2019-04-11 21:57:00 |
18 | shanreagh wrote:
So a bit older than her husband then? According to 1841 census he was born about 1799/1800. Where have you got the date of birth from? MUTRIE AGNES NEILSON DAVID MUTRIE/JEAN FURLONG FR1556 (FR1556) F 24/02/1791 644/1 180 307 Glasgow h28skipper - 2019-04-12 02:07:00 |
19 | h28skipper wrote:
MUTRIE AGNES NEILSON DAVID MUTRIE/JEAN FURLONG FR1556 (FR1556) F 24/02/1791 644/1 180 307 Glasgow Yes I saw that. I just wanted to know how they had established that this one was 'their' one. I could not find a child in the family (in the census result above) named Jean or David and often in Scottish families at the time that would be unusual. They may have died young of course. shanreagh - 2019-04-12 09:17:00 |
20 | shanreagh wrote:
Marriage Name Thomas Shields Spouse's Name Agnes Mutrie Event Date 03 Aug 1823 Event Place Lanark,Lanark,Scotland Thank you for this ,I know Thomas was meant to have been married 3 times, so I wasn't sure Agnes was the mother of all of William's siblings, this would confirm she was. herby10 - 2019-04-13 13:12:00 |
21 | The sister of my great grandmother married William Shields. She was a Wylie from the west of Scotland, and would have been born about 1820. I'm being vague because I need to find the details and I will if it seems likely. They had a son, William as well. blackhalls - 2019-04-16 22:46:00 |