Not a porridge fan, but finding now have diabetes 2 so diet has to change.
DD bought me some diabetic friendly foods, one is porridge oats, as i struggle with breaky, Any other ideas so i can eat these oats.

fifie - 2019-04-10 10:15:00

I make them up as porridge and add things like stewed apple, unsweetened yoghurt, cinnamon to them. It takes a bit to get used to no sugar but I found that I needed to cut sugar down first. You could use an artificial sweetener but that again is personal preference.
Make some muesli type bars for breakfast just watch the dried fruit content as that counts as carbohydrates/sugars.
Alternative cereals would be ricies or cornflakes or you could even have eggs or things like mushrooms or tomatoes instead of cereal.

cgvl - 2019-04-10 11:00:00

fifie wrote:

Not a porridge fan, but finding now have diabetes 2 so diet has to change.
DD bought me some diabetic friendly foods, one is porridge oats, as i struggle with breaky, Any other ideas so i can eat these oats.

I make muesli from rolled oats with a selection of coconut, nuts, seeds and dried fruits. Add fresh fruit if you wish. Eat straight with milk or soak overnight, whatever you prefer. You can use up your 'porridge' this way.

gilligee - 2019-04-10 11:54:00

Skip it then and have an omelette. You need to eliminate sugar and reduce carbs. Mostly things made from flour

lythande1 - 2019-04-10 12:13:00

Oats are high carb and not suitable for diabetics. Have bacon, mushrooms and eggs, a spinach or mushroom omelette, scrambled eggs with herbs, no toast.

davidt4 - 2019-04-10 12:26:00

My dietician said Oats are very good as they 'fill you up' and they are very nutritious - I'm type 2 diabetic too

muffin2 - 2019-04-10 12:37:00

Wrong Wrong Wrong. Oats are low glycemic carbs so are perfectly fine for diabetics.

davidt4 wrote:

Oats are high carb and not suitable for diabetics. Have bacon, mushrooms and eggs, a spinach or mushroom omelette, scrambled eggs with herbs, no toast.

mousiemousie - 2019-04-10 12:52:00

Oats are fine - but if you hate porridge why eat it? Plenty of other things you can have - whole grain toast with avo and feta or hummus, Bacon, eggs, omelettes, spinnage,

Or skip it entirely - highly recommend Michael Mosleys The Blood Sugar Diet

lissie - 2019-04-10 12:58:00

100g of oats contains 66g total carbohydrate, 56g net carbs. That's a lot.

davidt4 - 2019-04-10 13:46:00

fifie if you make meat loaves, you could use the rolled oats instead of breadcrumbs as in this recipe:-

COTTAGE CHEESE MEAT LOAF
500g lean mince
1 tbsp prepared mild mustard
½ cup rolled oats
¼ cup tomato sauce
¾ tsp salt
¼ tsp pepper
1 egg, lightly beaten
2 tbsp finely chopped or grated onion
1 cup (1 x 250g pottle) cottage cheese
¼ cup parmesan cheese

Combine all the ingredients, except the parmesan cheese, then press the mixture into a greased 23cm x 15cm loaf tin.
Bake at 180°C for 1 hour. Remove from the oven and top with the parmesan cheese. Return to the oven for 10 minutes, then remove from the oven again and allow to stand for about 5 minutes - for ease of cutting. Serve hot or cold.

Hope that helps. :-))

245sam - 2019-04-10 13:51:00

Not all carbohydrates are equal. Oats are low glycemic, low glycemic being to operative word and being so can help maintain glucose levels. This can be beneficial for people with diabetes, who especially need to manage their blood sugar levels. Oatmeal in its pure form may reduce the amount of insulin a patient needs. I think you need to educate yourself a little better before you go spouting off.

davidt4 wrote:

100g of oats contains 66g total carbohydrate, 56g net carbs. That's a lot.

Edited by mousiemousie at 1:58 pm, Wed 10 Apr

mousiemousie - 2019-04-10 13:57:00

Oats are a wonderful food for diabetics. My sister makes her into oat breakfast biscuits or when she makes her porridge she uses a very little honey as she says honey is a good natural food. She is a type 1 diabetic. She also makes muesli. Oats are much less processed than many other breakfast cereals. She finds using oats keeps her glucose readings more stable.

strathview - 2019-04-10 14:39:00

Thank you every one for your comments.
Since using the oats, blood sugar levels have dropped great, so im learning.

fifie - 2019-04-10 15:23:00

davidt4 wrote:

100g of oats contains 66g total carbohydrate, 56g net carbs. That's a lot.

This is useful info. https://www.healthline.com/health/diabetes/oatmeal#oatmeal

kitty179 - 2019-04-10 17:32:00

Only one way to discover if oats/porridge is right for you.
Use your meter and test after eating. Your numbers will give you the answer.
Test one hour after eating , then 2 hours after.
If you go up to an unacceptable number change to a low carb breakfast.

nahmi - 2019-04-11 08:30:00

This am they were way up again, my hands are all twisted with rhueamatoid now, and i have to get mr to do bloods grrr, dr tells its steroid induced and it might dissapear as i drop that med back. Omg hate this, and having to do insulin shots. Thank you nahmi will try this to..

fifie - 2019-04-11 12:02:00

There is an artificial maple syrup, made by Queen, that has 70 kilojoules per serve. It tastes pretty good on porridge. Cooked apple or other fruit is good, too, sweetened, if you must with sweetener, the above "maple" syrup, or Lemon Thriftee (try not to, to change your taste expectations)
I also use oats in breakfast pancakes, waffles, etc., because it helps to lower cholestrol levels. Experiment to see what suits you.
Eventually, your tastes will change, and you'll find some foods far too sweet!

punkinthefirst - 2019-04-12 11:14:00

davidt4 wrote:

Oats are high carb and not suitable for diabetics. Have bacon, mushrooms and eggs, a spinach or mushroom omelette, scrambled eggs with herbs, no toast.

You are looking at it from a low carb diet point of view, not a diabetic diet which OP was referring to in her post. Oats are Low GI and perfectly fine as other posters have already pointed out.

nauru - 2019-04-12 17:53:00

This may be of interest to the original poster.

https://academic.oup.com/ajcn/advance-article-abstract/doi/1
0.1093/ajcn/nqy261/5435774?fbclid=IwAR1B3I6bxx8_s7s6B3UvjcUR
mE3yQ3LDbrXJayozd19NgNk375Kx4SfqKRQ

Edited by davidt4 at 8:33 am, Mon 15 Apr

davidt4 - 2019-04-15 08:33:00

nauru wrote:

You are looking at it from a low carb diet point of view, not a diabetic diet which OP was referring to in her post. Oats are Low GI and perfectly fine as other posters have already pointed out.

As that information is sourced from the American Diabetic Association I would have to question its veracity. The following is the glycemic Index for oats - all types.

Oat type Glycemic Index
Steel-cut oats 55
Rolled oats 53
Quick cooking oats 71
Instant Oats 75

Dr Bernstein has a few pages devoted to the Glycemic Index in his book. He has this to say about it:

"Unfortunately many dietitians and diabetes educators still recommend foods that have been "shown" to have a "low" glycemic index in some study and assume that an index of 40-50% is low. They may thus select apples, lima beans and the like as appropriate for diabetics, even though consumption of typical portions of these foods will cause considerable blood sugar elevations."

He continues in similar vein carefully explaining to the reader the serious flaws in the glycemic index theory and using it for maintenance of blood sugar serum levels.

Therefore it is not davidt4 who is wrong. I suggest that rather than tell davidt4 she doesn't know stuff, it is you who need to educate yourselves.

buzzy110 - 2019-04-15 13:23:00

Really! Educate myself by reading the Dr Bernstein. Well that gave me a good laugh.

buzzy110 wrote:

As that information is sourced from the American Diabetic Association I would have to question its veracity. The following is the glycemic Index for oats - all types.

Oat type Glycemic Index
Steel-cut oats 55
Rolled oats 53
Quick cooking oats 71
Instant Oats 75

Dr Bernstein has a few pages devoted to the Glycemic Index in his book. He has this to say about it:

"Unfortunately many dietitians and diabetes educators still recommend foods that have been "shown" to have a "low" glycemic index in some study and assume that an index of 40-50% is low. They may thus select apples, lima beans and the like as appropriate for diabetics, even though consumption of typical portions of these foods will cause considerable blood sugar elevations."

He continues in similar vein carefully explaining to the reader the serious flaws in the glycemic index theory and using it for maintenance of blood sugar serum levels.

Therefore it is not davidt4 who is wrong. I suggest that rather than tell davidt4 she doesn't know stuff, it is you who need to educate yourselves.

mousiemousie - 2019-04-15 17:27:00

buzzy110 wrote:

As that information is sourced from the American Diabetic Association I would have to question its veracity..........
Therefore it is not davidt4 who is wrong. I suggest that rather than tell davidt4 she doesn't know stuff, it is you who need to educate yourselves.

The information (as you so wrongly state above) was not from the American Diabetic Association at all, I have quite a few Low GI books (non of which are American) which give lots of information. Steel cut oats and rolled oats are Low GI and OK as they are 55 or less unlike quick oats which are medium GI and instant are high GI. I also did not say davidt4 was wrong or (as you put it) didn't know her stuff, and I really don't need to educate myself.

Edited by nauru at 7:01 pm, Mon 15 Apr

nauru - 2019-04-15 18:49:00

mousiemousie wrote:

Really! Educate myself by reading the Dr Bernstein. Well that gave me a good laugh.

Considering he is America's top Endocrinologist specialising in Diabetes and who has been a type 1 diabetic since his early teens, (and against all the odds, now in his 80s and still advocating for more logical diabetes dietary advice) I put more stock in his analysis of the deleterious effects of carbs than anything you may come up with.

buzzy110 - 2019-04-16 16:18:00

nauru wrote:

The information (as you so wrongly state above) was not from the American Diabetic Association at all, I have quite a few Low GI books (non of which are American) which give lots of information. Steel cut oats and rolled oats are Low GI and OK as they are 55 or less unlike quick oats which are medium GI and instant are high GI. I also did not say davidt4 was wrong or (as you put it) didn't know her stuff, and I really don't need to educate myself.

55% carbs or slightly less is not low. It still stops diabetics from normalising their blood sugars.

The books you read all took their information from the standards set by the American Diabetic Association, no matter where their authors came from.

I used your quote but I was referring to all the posters in here who disputed davidt4.

buzzy110 - 2019-04-16 16:21:00

I make porridge during the winter as an alternative to my usual omelette - I sweeten it with vanilla essence and add a knob of butter for creaminess and a touch of salt but that might not be ok for type 2 diabetic.

sarahb5 - 2019-04-16 21:12:00

sarahb5 wrote:

I make porridge during the winter as an alternative to my usual omelette - I sweeten it with vanilla essence and add a knob of butter for creaminess and a touch of salt but that might not be ok for type 2 diabetic.

That sounds really lovely but you are probably right. On the odd occasion when I make 'porridge' I use steel cut groats. I saute them in the cooking pot with ghee till they smell toasty then add the required amount of cold water and leave overnight to soak. In the morning it is simply a matter of bringing to the boil, being sure there is enough water to do that and cook till thickish. Serve with cream. I add some fresh fruit but if I'm making it for my DH I add a small handful of dried fruit (cranberries, currents, etc) before bring top the boil and then fresh fruit and cream to serve. I think the steel cut groats have more flavour that rolled oats.

Still not good for a type 2.

Edited by buzzy110 at 1:22 pm, Wed 17 Apr

buzzy110 - 2019-04-17 13:21:00

buzzy110 wrote:

That sounds really lovely but you are probably right. On the odd occasion when I make 'porridge' I use steel cut groats. I saute them in the cooking pot with ghee till they smell toasty then add the required amount of cold water and leave overnight to soak. In the morning it is simply a matter of bringing to the boil, being sure there is enough water to do that and cook till thickish. Serve with cream. I add some fresh fruit but if I'm making it for my DH I add a small handful of dried fruit (cranberries, currents, etc) before bring top the boil and then fresh fruit and cream to serve. I think the steel cut groats have more flavour that rolled oats.

Still not good for a type 2.

I don’t like the chewiness of the steel cut oats/groats but I do soak overnight in milk and water then just cook in the microwave for 2 minutes in the morning - if they’re too thick I top up with boiling water from the jug - easy

sarahb5 - 2019-04-17 14:09:00

sarahb5 wrote:

I don’t like the chewiness of the steel cut oats/groats but I do soak overnight in milk and water then just cook in the microwave for 2 minutes in the morning - if they’re too thick I top up with boiling water from the jug - easy

Steel cut groats do take longer to cook and are 'chewy' if not fully cooked, similar to unpolished rice that is not fully cooked. I don't think a microwave is the best thing to cook groats in. Best to use a pot and stir occasionally making sure there is enough water.

I just remembered that in the evening, when I add the water, it is also brought to the boil and stirred before being taken off the heat and left to soak overnight. This helps move the cooking along.

buzzy110 - 2019-04-17 14:16:00

buzzy110 wrote:

Steel cut groats do take longer to cook and are 'chewy' if not fully cooked, similar to unpolished rice that is not fully cooked. I don't think a microwave is the best thing to cook groats in. Best to use a pot and stir occasionally making sure there is enough water.

I just remembered that in the evening, when I add the water, it is also brought to the boil and stirred before being taken off the heat and left to soak overnight. This helps move the cooking along.

So glad I’m not diabetic and don’t have to worry - long may it stay that way

sarahb5 - 2019-04-17 20:03:00

Yep sarah you dont want this. I was never diabetic, ended up in hospital they were testing everybody, next thing im told i was type 2.So using diabetic oats to make the porridge, and putting a spoonful of stewed apple tossed in cinnamon on top, drizzle a
little diabetic syrup on, Find im enjoying it better as i can taste flavour. Being a oldie i struggle with carbs etc, so try not to eat to much bread. Will go back to having eggs for a change soon.

fifie - 2019-04-17 22:13:00

fifie wrote:

Yep sarah you dont want this. I was never diabetic, ended up in hospital they were testing everybody, next thing im told i was type 2.So using diabetic oats to make the porridge, and putting a spoonful of stewed apple tossed in cinnamon on top, drizzle a
little diabetic syrup on, Find im enjoying it better as i can taste flavour. Being a oldie i struggle with carbs etc, so try not to eat to much bread. Will go back to having eggs for a change soon.

I didn’t even know there were diabetic oats and my mum was Type 2! She just ate “normal” porridge (rolled oats) without adding sugar - I know she avoided anything that had more than 5% sugar but she was in the UK so I didn’t really have to worry about it.

sarahb5 - 2019-04-17 22:32:00

Top with Queens Sugar Free Blueberry Maple Syrup

pleco - 2019-04-24 07:04:00

Is that 100% maple syrup or the maple flavoured one?

nauru - 2019-04-24 14:48:00

nauru wrote:

Is that 100% maple syrup or the maple flavoured one?

Maple flavoured - it’s very nice

sarahb5 - 2019-04-24 18:07:00

Low carb can definitely reverse type 2 diabetes. It's working for 1000's of people and gaining momentum in mainstream health round the world. Fifie, steroids definitely could be contributing to your issue as your doc says. If you are 'an oldie' then I'm sure just a few changes to avoidsugar and bad carbs as you are doing and checking your levels after certain foods sounds like a sensible plan. Many elderly lose their appetite and become underweight and that becomes a bigger issue in the long run. Especially if your hands make it difficult to prepare food. Good luck and I vote fo eggs! Chuck them in a little pan and scramble. Done in minutes. Healthy as!

wendalls - 2019-04-27 08:07:00